Here are the latest scientific findings on proven benefits to help Prevent and Reverse Diabetes.
Panel Participants: Anna Maria Clement, Ph.D., L.N., Brian Clement, Ph.D., L.N., Brenda Davis, R.D., Gabriel Cousens, MD, MD(H), DD
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okay i’d like to ask another set of questions and uh try to answer each one in three minutes okay first question how much protein do we need for growing children what should they eat to make sure they get enough protein is there a way that we could not get enough protein are you positive that kids and adults don’t need animal products to get enough protein you know it’s a funny thing i am definitely brainwashed in other words i’m 100 plant-based and i’m still every now and then if someone says it loud enough i think i don’t know that’s what i was told when i was little and it’s uh it’s been answered 100 times but it still sometimes seems like uh something i’m not confident number two do you recommend cholesterol lowering drugs in any cases why or why not question three how does human anatomy compare with those animals that are designed to eat other animals like a lion versus those that are designed to eat plants like an elephant question four thomas seifried professor at boston college spoke last year at the real truth about health conference he said that glucose and glutamine were the foods of cancer so does that mean we should avoid all glucose and how would we even avoid glutamine if we wanted to question five a lot of what you’re saying about prevent weight loss about obesity diabetes heart disease seems to make sense but what about dementia will lifestyle prevent alzheimer’s the way it prevents heart disease and question six is what is candida and how do you get rid of it so the questions again the first one was getting enough protein the second was cholesterol lowering drugs the third was how does human anatomy compare with those animals that are designed to eat other animals fourth was thomas seed seyfried saying the foods of cancer glucose and glutamine question five was how do you prevent dementia and question six is what is candida and how do you get rid of it
i’ll go first and i’ll talk about dr seyfried’s lecture in his work and i have written a lot about this uh i invited dr seaford to speak for the first time in one of our conferences about um i think it was four or five years ago and dr campbell was the speaker also and as soon as i announced it you know i get a lot of hate mail and nasty comments and um some of it’s amusing some of it not so much but people are like i can’t believe you invited dr seaford to come and speak with dr campbell and how can you put these two people together and they’re diametrically opposed and they don’t have the same ideas and are you going to become a paleo person i mean it was just absolutely insane like i got close to a thousand emails like this well the first thing that i’ll tell you is that um the saturday night of our conference dr c freed and dr campbell we’re in my hospitality suite until 2 30 in the morning talking it’s one of the most fat interesting conversations i’ve ever heard they’re not as diametrically opposed as you might imagine and i went home that night i thought you know if i die in my sleep tonight this is the way i’d like to spend the last few hours of my life it’s very interesting but um dr steve reed’s work is based on um otto warburg’s research in the 1940s he was a jewish researcher in in germany and the reason why he didn’t end up in the camps is because hitler had a polyp on his vocal cord and he thought he might need some cancer researchers sometimes so he never sent the jewish cancer researchers some of them to the camp so anyway he toiled away in nazi germany and made a discovery that all cancer cells were the same regardless of where they were located in the body and that they all took up glucose at a more rapid rate they probably they didn’t respire normally so speed ahead and a guy by the name of peterson picked up robert’s work at hopkins and then seafred picked it up and um he wrote a very interesting textbook called cancer as a metabolic disease and one of the things that he talks about in the book is the potential for managing cancer some types of cancer the way that you manage type 1 diabetes you die with it not of it handled properly you could live till the end of your life and he’s focused on people who have forms of cancer that the people don’t have long enough to live to use alternative approaches or integrative approaches or just diet to try to resolve so if you have slow developing chronic lymphocytic leukemia you can often eat your way out of it we have a lot of people who have but if you have glioblastoma you’re likely to be dead in eight months and there’s just not enough time to do much and the treatments don’t work you’re going to be dead in eight months whether you get the treatments or not and he’s been successful in using a ketogenic diet with some of these people who have literally death sentences and one of his patients he reported on a case report when he was in columbus about a patient who lived for seven and a half years after her diagnosis of glioblastoma which is that just doesn’t happen he’s got quite a few like that now and he’s set up an institute to work with doctors who want to learn how to do this so i think the the point is that um we have to make sure that we’re looking at the application of diet to cancer without such a one-size-fits-all lens i talked about that last night i think it’s important that we not do what medicine has done which is try to slot everybody into this if you have this we this is what we do for all cancer patients this is what we do for all heart patients so when i’m dealing with somebody who has terminal cancer like treatments don’t work you don’t have very long to live i think that seafred’s approach is a reasonable approach when you’ve got somebody who has stage two breast cancer i think that would be insane okay so i think that there’s a lot more i could say about it and you know i could probably talk to you for three or four hours but steve would have tranquilizer darts to keep that from happening so so we’ll just leave it at that um there’s a lot of legitimacy to using certain strategies that deprive cancer cells of glucose for very long periods of time and that’s that is not diametrically opposed to the way that we would approach a person with cancer that is far less aggressive at a much earlier stage and etc
i you know i i totally agree with your approach and we have to look at different things but i think safely has two patients that have been successful no more than two i think he’s got an n of two which to me is not science i he i i attended a lecture of his where i just was like oh my god this is ridiculous because it was such speculation and anecdote on two people most of it was rat studies it’s based on this idea that cancer cells first of all you can’t extrapolate treatment of cancer to prevention of cancer those are two different things right secondly he’s done nothing to prove the effectiveness of his treatment except provide two anecdotal reports so what i see a lot of times in rece in researchers i think we all see it is where they lose the force for the trees definitely cancer cells depend on cancer he may be right but i’d like to see a little bit more evidence before it’s taken by the vast public to say oh my god sugar is the cause of cancer because that’s not true well i have to respond to that okay yeah and that he i’ve listened to his lectures for a long time he was at our conference last year also and he spent about 90 seconds of the two hours he talked on those two patients so there’s a lot more to this than that his textbook is 400 pages with 3 000 references and i think that before we get into the weeds about it people should read that book all right it’s tough to read it’s really it’s very in the weeds it is in the weeds but the point that he’s making i think that we have to step back and look at the point that he’s making he actually talks about plant-based diets and he did and then the conference i went to i started asking these things because i said well come on igf-1 stimulates cancer oh yes it definitely does but you’re telling people to eat meat no no no i’m not telling people to eat meat yeah i think it gets lost in the message though but the other thing too is that in the united states there he is working on doing a study but in the united states an irb is never going to approve a study that randomizes glioblastoma patients to a keto diet versus radiation which will kill them so everybody who’s making interesting discoveries we have dr koh coming to our conference this fall she’s another one who’s been ostracized by the cancer community if you have an interesting idea about cancer that has some promise you’re never going to get a chance to try it in this country so the only thing that you can do look at what esselstyn did he never could have gotten his study approved either so he basically said listen if you show up and say you want me to help you with diet and cardiovascular disease i’d like to be able to use your data okay with you all right great so we don’t have to randomize and of course he gets beat up all the time because there’s no control group either well the control group is what happens to people who don’t do this and in the case of glioblastoma they’re all dead if anybody lives it’s an anomaly right so what he’s basically doing is training doctors around the world to do this where there’s a lot more freedom to practice differently and also making the information available hoping that enough people on their own might do it and then submit their case reports to join the others and that’s the only way he’ll ever be able to prove it but the basic premise of what seafred is talking about is that all cancer cells are the same they respire abnormally and and if you treat that and there are different ways of treating it including fasting you’ve talked about fasting fasting intermittent fasting to potentiate chemotherapy we’ve used that with a lot of people with great results a keto diet for somebody who’s eight months from death various ways to address the metabolic abnormality of cancer cells so i agree with you that there are limitations to his work but they’re they’re not self-imposed i just want people to understand that there’s a difference between hypothesis and theory those are two different things well i understand that but if you’re the person with glioblastoma you don’t really care much about that you’re just looking for something that might help you because nobody in oncology’s got any ideas for you at this point yeah but the the the problem i have with safer is not that it’s not the glioblastoma patient it’s the extrapolation of his work to this whole support of ketosis diet and some kind of idea that ketosis prevents cancer which it does not do yeah and so that’s that’s what really bothers me and besides if you really want to look at evidence-based research for a nutrient fueling cancer there’s much more evidence for methionine fueling cancer than there is sugar very good studies prospective randomized trials in conjunction with chemotherapy but very strong evidence that methionine which is very heavy in animal products right and remember that the keto people are grasping for anything that they can including the misinterpretation of other people’s work all right they misinterpret campus work right we can talk about it and say oh yeah this is interesting they misinterpret that and take it as ketosis prevents cancer right welcome as you’re gonna say it’s been a long time since i watched saturday night live and that kind of back and forth on the news jane curtain and such you

