Should We Replace Animal Products With Beans? Which Are Best Whole Grains? with Brenda Davis, R.D., Gabriel Cousens, M.D., Joel Fuhrman, M.D., Kim Williams M.D.
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we didn’t it’d be simpler to instead of having a 10-day conference instead of giving individual lectures to just tell everyone in five seconds everyone should eat beans instead of animal products because everyone already is aware that vegetables are healthy isn’t that the punchline of the entire thing is beans that’s what you replace all animal products with that’s how you get full isn’t because everyone knows has always known that green vegetables should be part of their diet but you I don’t get full on just salads I am not satisfied with lettuce I’m not satisfied if I add kale I feel like I’m missing something and maybe it’s just me but to me the answer is always beans that’s what fills you up is that what you’re saying where you have a different explanation of that why are you leaving out nuts in that and why are you not eating fruit but certainly beans
I think are accept excellent food and should be a major portion of all our diets and we’re all agreeing on that for sure but it doesn’t to be only beans there are other good foods to include in our diet as well quinoa nuts and seeds you know other other foods we can eat that are healthy too I mean if you look at the data about nuts and seeds if you’re just eating nuts and seeds occasionally you’ll drop your motility rate by 7% you were having it once a week and drop it by 9% if we’re having at two to four times a week you drop it by 13% if you’re having nuts and seeds which I do every day you’re gonna drop your mortality rate by 20% that’s pretty simple it’s good
okay and aside from beans when it comes to grains is there a hierarchy is quinoa millet amaranth teff and buckwheat over here and then the glutinous grains wheat barley oats rye are those a lesser less desirable grain because they have gluten is that is that an accurate way to think about whole grains
well in I I don’t think so I think that if you look at sort of grains we have grains and then we have pseudo grains which aren’t true true grains I think the problem with gluten containing grains may be the glyphosate that’s sprayed on them if we you know if we if we look at long-lived healthy populations and people who are using traditional foods I just ordered some black barley which is an organic barley that’s a heritage seed I think that these foods really can be part of a healthy diet they are say da ting they aren’t as nutrient dense as vegetables and some of the other foods but I still think they can they they have a reasonable role to play and so obviously if you’re sensitive to gluten then you need to select pseudo grains but if n even some grains some true grains don’t have gluten as well the the grains out of gluten of course are wheat barley and rye and any combinations of those like triticale or camel term or or spelt but I personally consume those grains and often I sprout them and they go into my breakfast bowl and I love them sprouted and they’re filling but sometimes I cook them as well but the one thing that I do with grains is I keep them intact so they provide everything wonderful that was intended and there’s an you know everything of value is still there and nothing has been added that’s damaging as they were picked from the plant and I think those foods can have wonderful value
I am I agree with everything Brenda said and I just have to add and you could tell me if you agree is that lately I’ve been telling my patients not to eat brown rice anymore not to eat white rice was to play Seema cannot see brown rice because it’s too contaminated with arsenic but doing it on cotton soils that have been treated with arsenic fertilizers or Bob or certain among pesticides against the boy weevil and and then they use chicken manure to fuel the rice patties which is the chickens vitriol arsenic and outer surface of brown rice sucks of arsenic more effectively than other foods but there are some Rice’s that are grown by natural Indian populations that are raised on natural marches and a knock down with the with the sticks into the canoes that aren’t raised commercially and those may not have arsenic in them so I’ve been more cautious in the last two years in my own diet about trying to not eat brown rice and substituting quinoa and other intact grains like you are because of that arsenic concern
so my my take on the arsenic has been I’m really concerned for people that are eating rice on a daily basis as a lot of Asian populations do the the amount of arsenic and rice do vary I believe the California rice is a lot less contaminated than the rice from the deep south where they had the cotton fields and so what I normally tell people is it’s not that you absolutely have to eliminate it but it should be just a very occasional if you’re out somewhere and they’re serving at rather than a kind of a staple diet for sure agree and I eat it myself very rarely now I tend to do other grains instead it definitely is one of our more significant sources of arsenic as is hijiki seaweed and as his chicken so people there you know it was interesting I just have to add this because a lot of people are big on bone broth right now and so I did a search in PubMed to see if I could find any studies that substantiated all the claims about bone broth and they are just amazing claims about bone broth and I found 10 studies that came up about bone broth and health only one study concerned human health and the study was a study on chicken bone broth that showed that the levels of arsenic in organic chicken broth were so high that they exceeded the maximum levels recommended and that practitioners physicians and health care practitioners needed to know that this was a concern they needed to warn their patients against consuming organic chicken broth or any sort of and growth for that matter so just something to be aware of
so just to clarify when it comes to beans are there any beans you’re not recommending an aside from brown rice are there any whole intact grains organic that you’re not recommending or are you saying any whole-grain except round rice and any bean is okay or there any that you’re saying you should avoid
that’s correct you could you have it correct they’re all okay they’re all okay to sensitivity okay and the thing with beans would be just that some beans are safely sprouted and some and can be eaten raw like lentils and and some of the really small you know small lentils mainly Peas can be sprouted safely but the larger beans tend to be high in some lectins that are you really can’t be consuming them raw so they must be well cooked so that’s the one caveat with with beans sorry I’m not supposed to look at Steve I’m supposed to look at the audience

