Expert Panel Hosts: Joel Fuhrman Brenda Davis (A podcast version of this video is available on iTunes.)

The Top Diseases Part 2 – The causes and solutions for the Top Diseases Including: Heart Disease, Cancer, Reflux Esophagitis. Osteoarthritis, COPD, Stroke, Kidney Disease, Alzheimer’s, Arthritis, Liver Disease, Parkinson’s Disease, Hypothyroidism, Diabetes and More.

Joel Fuhrman – The New York Times bestselling author of Eat to Live and Super Immunity and one of the country’s leading experts on preventive medicine offers a scientifically proven, practical program to prevent and reverse diabetes—without drugs.

At last, a breakthrough program to combat the rising diabetes epidemic and help millions of diabetics, as well as those suffering with high blood pressure and heart disease. Joel Fuhrman, M.D. Research director of the Nutritional Research Foundation, shows you how to live a long, healthy, and happy life—disease free. He offers a complete health transformation, starting with a diet with a high nutrient-per-calorie ratio that can be adapted for individual needs.

Brenda Davis – explores the benefits of a vegan diet (eating without meat, eggs or dairy products). More people are realizing the impact of their nutritional choices on their health, the environment, animal rights, and human hunger.

As a registered dietitian, Davis is well-qualified to provide information on how a vegan diet can protect against chronic illnesses, how to obtain all the protein and calcium you need without meat or dairy products, as well as the importance of Vitamin B12 and good fats in vegan diets. She shows how to achieve optimal weight, and gives tips on how to deal gracefully with a non-vegan world.

Brenda Davis, registered dietitian and nutritionist, is a leader in her field and an internationally acclaimed speaker. She has worked as a public health nutritionist, clinical nutrition specialist, nutrition consultant and academic nutrition instructor. She is currently on a diabetes intervention research project in Majuro, Marshall Islands. Brenda spent 8 months in Majuro in 2006 and returns for 4-6 week periods every year or two. Brenda is a past chair of the Vegetarian Nutrition Dietetic Practice Group of the American Dietetic Association. In July 2007, she was inducted into the Vegetarian Hall of Fame. A co-author of nine books – award winners, Becoming Vegan: Comprehensive Edition(2014) and Becoming Vegan: Express Edition (2013), and the best-sellers, Becoming Vegan (2000), Becoming Vegetarian (1994, 1995), The New Becoming Vegetarian (2003) and Defeating Diabetes (2003), Dairy-free and Delicious (2001)and Becoming Raw (2010) and Raw-food Revolution Diet (2008). Brenda lives in Kelowna, British Columbia with her husband Paul. She has two grown children, Leena and Cory

Intro

Are cruciferous vegetables bad for thyroid hello hi um this question is for Dr Ferman um you talk a lot about cerous vegetables and how beneficial it is for us uh what about people who have thyroid issues I read somewhere that if you have thyroid issues you should cook it a little bit is that true can you speak about that

sure that’s actually that’s a good question because um we were just discussing that before we came up and Brandon and I both have a lot of things to say about that um but the first thing to recognize is that this idea that cruciferous vegetables are a Goin that are going to hurt your thyroid is a myth mostly a myth doesn’t happen that way

the consumption of crucifix vegetables are linked to thyroid Health protection against thyroid tumors and protection against thyroid cancer they’re protective for your th thyroid now the the cruciferous vegetables do um in animals and you’ve consumed in very very high amounts can interfere with iodine uptake and can lower thyroid production of of thyroid hormone

but in humans that could only occur if you were iodine deficient in combination with having an unusual amount of cruciferous vegetables probably juice to get enough poundage you would need to have any clinical effects in real life they have no clinical effect on thyroid function other than beneficial effects

so the this idea that people are trying to make you fearful of eating crucifer vegetables because they’re going to have a negative effect on the thyroid is not true it is NE it is um advisable to make sure your diet is iodine sufficient that’s important

but um but you couldn’t you don’t have to cook cruus vegetables unless you were drinking tons of cruciferous juice that was with with poundage of the stuff each day it would not it would be very difficult to have negative effect on thyroid function thank you

let let’s Bren yeah and and I would add that there are go gens in all sorts of foods there are goitrogens in you know the cyanogenic glycosides and flax seeds there are goitrogens in sweet potatoes and soy foods and all sorts of foods have goitrogens

Goitrogens

goitrogens really as as Dr Ferman said are only an issue if you are iodine deficient and this is an issue um for a lot of people uh because first of all there are some places especially in Europe where the iodine in the soil is quite poor

a lot of people are using um you know different Himalayan sea salts and different salts that are actually quite low in iodine and if you’re not consuming various seaweeds and things like that and you don’t use iodized salt uh where’s your iodine coming from

and so some people it would you know it would be reasonable for them to be including um some iodine in a supplement form and it it 150 micrograms a day is what is recommended there’s some caution about seaweeds because seaweeds can actually contain massive amounts of iodine

and certain seaweeds are just can get you over the top the upper limit for iodine is 1,00 um microgram so so basically you’re you’re looking at um for 150 116th of a teaspoon of help powder so they’re very very tiny amounts

but it is important that people ensure that they’ve got a sufficient iodine if you have sufficient iodine the goitrogens are much less of an issue but all that having been said you do destroy some of the goitrogens when you cook cruciferous vegetables so it’s you know I think those are the main things

Flax seeds

thank you don’t wor don’t worry about it and and flax seeds as well the C glycosides are destroyed by cooking um and a couple of you know tablespoons or so is it’ll it’ll um contribute a fair a fair bit of of these compounds but again uh you know just make sure you get an iodine Source

thank you uh one last question if that’s okay um regarding quinoa I don’t I’ve read it’s a grain and I read it’s a seed what is it and how much of it should we have

Pseudo grains

yeah it’s technically it’s not a traditional grain it’s a what we call a pseudo grain and so it it’s a seed um as our we have some other pseudo grains buckweed is a pseudo grain amaranth is a pseudo grain uh and these foods are um they tend to actually be somewhat more nutrient dense than some of the true grains

but not not always consistently they tend to be a little bit higher in protein a little bit a higher quality uh complement of amino acids or essential amino acids and sometimes a little more concentrated in trace minerals as well

and to me the amount of grains and pseudo grains we can lump them together in a sense because they all are fairly um High unrefined carbohydrate foods and I my personal perspective on uh grains and starchy vegetables and all of these really concentrated carbohydrate Foods is meet your needs for the other food group

so you’ve got your 10 or 12 servings of veggies and fruits and your servings of nuts and seeds and legumes and once you have all of those uh and and you’re getting enough of all of those things then grains and starchy vegetables you eat the amount to provide the necessary calories for you

so if you’re a senior woman who’s eating 1,600 calories a day you need very few of those Foods if you’re an athlete burning 5,000 calories a day you need quite a few of those foods and so I think that that’s how you vary it

and so for for the average uh person you know probably three or four servings a day is is plenty and you don’t actually need to have any if your diet is really welld designed and you’re eating I I I think there are a lot of reasons to choose say a sweet potato over a a grain food simply because of the nutrient density and some of the phytochemicals and so forth

um but I do think grains can be a healthy part of the diet and I’ll talk about tomorrow um in my presentation I I believe that even within the whole grain category there’s a hierarchy and at the top of the hierarchy and this is where most of our grains if we’re eating grains should be coming intact whole grains

that means the grain as it’s picked off the plant nothing added nothing removed and the very best way to eat that would be sprouted because you increase the phytochemicals 3 4 500% by sprouting it

and uh when you when you cut the grain when you roll the grain when you shred the grain when you uh you know grind the grain to make flour when you uh um flake the Grain and when you Puff The Grain as you go down this hierarchy you’re doing more and more damage to the Grain

and as you go down you tend to eat these foods with with things added and so the you know the very best I would say draw the black Line in the Sand at rolled grains and and stay above that if at all possible okay thank you

and and it increases the Glycemic effect as you grind it into flow and grind into pastry flour the more the more it’s processed the more it’s ground the more the glycemic effect goes up of course

let me just ask a clarifying question on that you know that’s that’s why a lot of these books that are anti-rain books their their science is sloppy because they don’t distinguish between how the grain was prepared

they’re just putting a study that showed that the grain was bad and they’re looking at refined grains that were Ground to flour and they didn’t really study the intact grain that was used whole and cooked in water in something so they’re really not they’re they’re sloppy science you know they’re not um so this important what you said yes

and the other thing that’s interesting is you can grind a grain you’re increasing the surface area with with these processing techniques and as you increase the surface area the rate of absorption increases but that’s not the only thing that increases the rate of absorption the other thing is when you lighten the grain

so if you um yeast the bread if you Puff The Grain this stuff just dissolves evolves in our system so if you compare for example uh white bread or brown bread with uh the glycemic index with table sugar the glycemic index is actually higher than table sugar because it just breaks down so so rapidly

uh because it’s puffy but it’s also because sugar is half glucose half fructose and and the the uh the bread is mostly glucose and so there’s a difference in glycemic index because of that it gets a little bit complicated

but just to know when you lighten things another example is if you compare white pasta with white bread the white pasta has a much lower glycemic index because it’s broken down more slowly even though it’s made of flour and they’re both made of flour so that density really affects how your body how quickly your body breaks it down but just to clarify um this

Grains soaked and cooked

afternoon uh Dr Ferman you mentioned five foods greens seeds beans mushrooms and onions as wonderful foods that you recommended if someone took these non- glutenous grains such as quinoa Millet amaranth TEF buckwheat wild rice they soaked them or sprouted them then they cooked them after soaking them sprouting them and cook them how would you compare that then to like a bean

is there a is the bean clearly a higher nutritional food than these six nonl glutinous grains that have been soaked and sprouted and then cooked well look it’s you’re mentioning things that are soaked and sprouted and then cooked so I mean they’re all okay foods and they’re all legitimately healthy foods to eat unprocessed whole plant foods

Eat unprocessed whole plant foods

and how you cook them makes a difference whether you cook it lightly in a walk with vegetable juice or water or whether you over steamed it and sucked all the nutrients out in the water and threw it away whether you how long you put it you know what heat you cooked it under whether you um cooked it with oil all these things are very dependent on the way you cook it

so um but what I’m suggesting is that we have to eat enough of these Brenda already said it we have to eat enough of those really um High nutrient foods for to to supply our immune system what it needs and then some of those foods that maybe have a little lower nutrient density you don’t have to not eat them you just try to eat them in in the best form possible conservatively cooked or raw

and then and so they be so they fill in your calories and also there’s nothing wrong with a person who’s more physically active in burning more calories or an athlete to eat more nuts and seeds too to eat you know um to increase your calories

I have a lot of professional worldclass athletes that are certainly they’re eating you know squashes and turnips and and and rudaba and other root vegetables for calories but they’re eating a tremendous amount of nuts and seeds and a lot of beans and they’re carrying around blenders with them to international events because they they do this for their athletic performance

I’ll tell you why they’re making the green smoothies and the bringing the smoothie making these um superfoods with them is because they re they recognize that if they get sick in their travel on airplanes meeting thousands of people if they get ill and they’re out of commission with a virus even it could ruin their whole career for the year

because their whole career is dependent on staying well and continuing to train and continuing to compete in these events that are not going to hold the event when it’s convenient for them the if you’re a professional ski racer you got to go on these events you know eight weeks in a row and you got to be available for those eight weeks of event or you’re going to hold or your score for the year is going to go down and you’re not going to get the 500,000 from the guys who make the rosol skis or whatever

so the point is is they want to stay well so they can keep active in training and um and right now in and next month is one of is the world power is one of these powerlifting Champions and some of the these powerlifters are getting their body fat down getting their weight down to compete at a lower body weight and they’re able to have perform and produce TR and do tremendous Feats of Strength um in using some of these techniques of improving the nutritional quality of their diet

so yes it’s um so I’m saying that um we maximize our health by being being aware by getting nutritional variety and high nutritional density and I’ll just add a couple of things to that number one when you soak

Soaking and sprouting

a seed and when you sprout a seed a few things happen and so the the soaking process a seed is really a little package that eventually would turn into a a plant and so in that seed are stored forms of nutrients and also there there are things we sometimes call antinutrients that protect the seed from prematurely releasing those nutrients

when we soak the seed we’re giving a signal to the seed to re reduce the antinutrients and release the stored forms of nutrients and so we’re when you know like you were saying soaking and sprouting and then cooking you’re actually reducing things like the pH Ates and the lectin and so forth in foods and then you’re also making some changes in the nutrients

so for example an interesting thing happens with amino acid lysine one of the more limited amino acids tends to actually increase omega-3 fatty acids increase so all of these changes begin to occur that are all good and so it’s a it’s a wonderful thing to soak and Sprout

I soak and Sprout all my nuts and seeds or soak can dehydrate to help reduce anti-nutrients increase nutrients and make the food much more digestible so it it’s a wonderful thing to do to whenever you can if you have time

and the second point that I would make is um uh just adding on to what Dr Ferman said about the way that you prepare Foods one of the things to know is that when you cook foods with a wet cooking method so you’re steaming or you’re making soup or stew or something like that you produce far fewer of the products of oxidation that are formed when you use dry cooking methods

so for example if you steam a yam versus baking the yam versus barbecuing whenever you brown you’re um you know you’ve heard of uh various reactions like the mayard reaction where Browning Foods or um your blackening Foods when you brown or blacken and especially when fat is involved as well you produce products of oxidation like uh polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and in starchy Foods or grains you produce something called acrylamide

so if you bake a potato you’ll produce more acrylamide than if you boil a potato uh if you fry the potato you’ll produce even more acrylamide so and and also Advanced glycation n products uh if you’re frying you’re producing alahh like acryline and these kinds of compounds that are really very damaging to human health they increase oxidative stress

and so these are these are not not to say I mean I even barbecue Foods in the summertime when I’m having company over sometimes but I’m careful to use a low very low temperature to try not to Blacken foods and not to use it as my major way of cooking foods

for those of you that cook foods I know that many of you eat a like I do a more High raw diet um but when you do cook just to be aware of that you’re better off making soups and stews than than uh doing the dry cooking so much yeah I agree 100% with what was just said

and so I just want to reiterate so you can write this down that it’s better to to boil sweet potatoes not bake them in the oven it’s better to cook them in water and then if you put them cold in your refrigerator it increases the resistant starch even more after they were baked after they were boiled excuse me

Boiling and steaming

now now it’s better to to walk Foods the if you want to lightly cook some vegetables walk them in a little with water or vegetable broth and if you’re steaming them I don’t know about you guys but for me if I steam a food the phone rings my kid calls me I’m thinking about something I come back and I ruin it every time it’s it’s it’s mush the water is green dark green and I’ve lost all the nutrients in the food

so I’ve known to experience I got to set my timer on it if I’m going to steam something I got to steam it for a very short amount of time so I specifically time things to steam them you know 8 to 12 minutes maybe your food and never more than 12 minutes so if I’m steing like maybe broccoli it might be 12 minutes but kale or or something ligher is only going to be eight or nine minutes you know

so I’m going to actually put my timer on to not to overly steam it once the water starts boiling cuz a minute the water is dark green you’ve lost so much nutrients yeah and then with artichokes I cut the artichoke in half and I scoop because you have to the AR to get soft it has to otherwise Steam for like 40 minutes

so I cut it in half I remove the choke by cutting it along the where the fuzz is and I remove that Center choke part and um then I so it’s cut in half and then I put it in the pot and I could I got a time so once the water’s boiling to just steam it for 18 minutes

that’s the only food I steam longer and I love artichokes eat tons of artichokes um but there superfood too when they’re actually a food that retains a lot of its nutrients when steamed and that doesn’t drop a lot of it into the water either you can steam it a little longer and you know it’s ready when you can like separate the the leaf from the choke

but what I’m saying is even shouldn’t steam an arti choke that long because you if you don’t cut it open you actually steam it so long that part of it gets overcooked you know the same thing with broccoli if you don’t cut the broccoli stem down the middle and maybe split it and quarter it the fettes get cooked but the stem gets hard and you got to overcook the fettes for the stem

so it’s better to separate it St take the stem and make it thinner and then timey it and only steam it for 10 minutes or or better yet walk it in a little water so it’s still like um Demi cooked like you know what I mean how like a little bit just gently cook but there’s still a lot of raw in the inside you want to answer

yeah I’ll just add another thing to that is what I often do is I just boil water and I pour the boiling water on the greens if I want to you know slightly cook them or the broccoli and uh and then I leave it for maybe a minute at most and and off it goes

and I find for green greens uh it’s just such a good if you’re wanting to do a wilted green salad or something like that that uh it’s just almost instant you just have to put a bit of boiling water on it

and it’s the same uh with grains one of the ways that I cook grains is uh for example oat Groats I would boil them for 5 minutes shut the heat off and I come back an hour later and they’re done so and it’s the same with rice you can do that with almost any grain where you just boiling it for a couple of minutes and then turning the heat off and it’ll take care of itself

and I was just going to say a lot of you know I you know I advocate people to eat a lot of raw vegetables and raw green vegetables a lot of the way I do that is I take you know cabbage or kale or collage or some green and I just put it in a make it a little salad in a bowl and I take my soup my bean mushroom carrot juice whatever I take the hot soup and I just pour it right onto the greens

and I have the raw greens with a hot soup on top and it kind of like softens them it’s like in between raw and cooked and makes it a little bit easier to chew that’s another good option for people to mix the chili and the stews with the raw greens just pour it right on top as it’s like a salad dressing

hello it’s really a privileged to be here um couple of questions um leth or roxon is it all is it uh um I was told it’s a um chemotherapy drug is that right no you’re just saying it’s sty medication Lev thyx yeah okay another question leev THX yeah for thyroid level thyrox hypothyroidism yes it replaces the hormone your body is supposed to make you the that they’re replacing because you have hyptis yes

another question I was diagnosed 5 years ago with stage three bre cancer and um I’m still here I was given one to 5 years to live and I decided I wasn’t going to be doing any invasive procedures I hope you took the five years I’m I took the five I took the five years so if you get that I’m going to take 10 I’m going to take 25 anyhow

um I did went on the um raw food diet for for a few month for a year I lost 46 Pounds I gain it back and more because I didn’t continue which I’m leaving here tonight with um I’m leaving this conference with a new outlook um I’m from Canada Ontario and I’m going to make this work my while coming here

also if I I’m not a I’m not a a doctor I work as a social worker but um something puzzled I’m always puzzled when I go to my doctor and for tests and blood tests and he’s always saying oh your oh it’s so good your blood test is good

and I’m thinking that if I have stage three breast cancer as I was diagnosed should something not be in my blood to say something that right with my blood but he’s always saying oh that’s good that’s good that’s good what’s your take and that my blood came back every time every time the test came back oh yes good this is good this is good

uh at one point he told me my um my B12 was too high because I was eating um bitter apricot kernels uh which produced B17 I was told so he said my B12 was too high it was too high too high so I’m I’m kind of puzzled because you want to do this and you want to the other but you’re left some time at a crossroad

well I mean it’s you’re asking somewhat difficult questions but in any case blood tests are highly overrated they don’t show the whole picture of your health they just show electrolytes liver function kidney function some nutrients they’re really not um able to detect whether you’re healthy or not

just because you have a normal blood test doesn’t mean you’re healthy and even you have normal cholesterol you could still doesn’t mean you’re healthy either these tests are almost meaningless well well that well that is good he told me I could rent my col I’m say is that a a a physician can better look at your body weight your blood pressure the the diet you’re eating your exercise tolerance they can there’s much better ways to determine your health than just looking at a blood test

but you have to look at the constellation of factors involved and yes it’s true that um an early sign of a of an occult cancer a cancer that’s not yet manifest itself might be a high B12 level so a B12 let’s say above a thousand can can be a sign of Cancer and it could be a sign that somebody should clean up their act because it might be predictive of cancer that maybe will happen down the road

and it’s not really caused by taking too much Beach W or taking too little beach wve it’s caused by just having your own body cells becoming there’s some um you know early early signs of something going wrong in body cells and your body releases a lot into B12 the circulation

on that note I have never had hypertension my my sugar it’s always 5.4 or what have you um I’ve never been sick I’m I’m 60 years old I’ve never been hospitalized until I was given birth 35 years ago well I hope by being here at this conference and by learning what you are learning that you could take change the course of your life right now into a better Direction and really get in great health

because obviously um you have you have a lot of ways to go to be able to protect your precious life and to be able have a good and happy life moving forward so the more you you know so take charge of your health do everything you can and and that’s also gives feels like you’re doing something to control your destiny and not just sitting there letting it things happen to you

but you’re taking charge of doing things to your life which can give you much more a better feeling about your you know moving forward with life and enjoying life more leaving with a an an new outlook yes new a new positive outlook thank you yeah thank

Enzymes

you thank you for all this um there are some groups around the country who are beginning to want to police themselves by setting up guidelines for raw food and of course the highest density that I’ve learned is that it’s about 18 Dees yet some folks are saying you know the there’s still tremendously High enzymes at 250 300 can you address that and what you might Define as raw food

well I know that it depending on what group you’re talking to some say 5 some say 112 one some say 118 and I would say um you know what is it you’re trying to accomplish with you know uh setting a a that kind of a number and a lot of people would say the preservation of enzymes and so why are enzymes so important

uh what is it that makes enzymes of value to human health and I’ve I’ve looked at this in some detail and I I have to say when you cook a food first of all it’s not you don’t go from 100% to zero as soon as you drop food into water uh there’s a very gradual destruction of enzymes so even if you hit uh say 30° uh you’ll still have some activity myosin or alenas activity uh it’s a grad you know a gradual thing not a sudden thing

so why are enzymes important and and I I’ll tell you from a I’m a you know registered dietitian schooled in uh standard way and what we learned in school about enzymes is that enzymes are made of proteins so they’re completely digested in the stomach they are of absolutely zero value to human health that’s what we learned

so when I began this becoming raw project I decided that I would do the very best job I could do to figure out what was true and what was not true about enzymes and I took some of the quotes from the leading people in the raw food movement where they were quoting people like uh Michael Gardner and Steven Rothman some of the world’s leading researchers on enzymes mainstream researchers scientific researchers that are published in peer-reviewed journals

and I contacted these uh researchers and I provided them with the quotes and um and and the answers were really consistent well I’m sure these people are well-meaning they don’t understand enzymes at all or the the the scientific literature

and and so what I did learn about enzymes is that is that there the two ways that enzymes can be of some benefit number one at least from what I understand number one is there are enzymes that are and and Dr Ferman has talked about this there are enzymes that are responsible for converting certain phytochemicals into their bioactive metabolites

so for example myrosinase changes the you know glucosinolates into isothiocyanates like sulphoraphane that’s really important because these these active metabolites are what induce things like our Phase 2 enzyme systems which help us to get rid of carcinogens turn them into water soluble compounds and excrete them from the body

so this is really important they they help to change you know Allen into allisin the active form through the enzyme alanas and so we want to preserve these enzymes and we don’t I’m sure we’ll learn about many more of these enzymes we don’t know about all of them yet we know about myosin we know about elanes

and there’s this you know as a as um just a a person without any sort of scci looking at it scientifically we know I know you know when you drink a juice that’s fresh squeezed versus a juice that’s been pasteurized or processed in some way it feels different in your body somehow and we know there’s something going on there and I you know the reality is this is a very young science and there’s a lot we don’t know and we have to admit that

the other thing about enzymes and and I think this is Maybe overstated in the raw food world is that they they may have you know help a little bit with um digestion and and what we know is is that uh at the in the upper part of the stomach uh food is held for some time for usually probably 20 to 60 Minutes on average 40 minutes and and in that upper part of the stomach the pH there is very conducive to enzyme work enzymes working

and so there will be some helping of breakdown of foods at at that level once it drops down into the more acidic part of the stomach those enzymes are completely destroyed their proteins and they get broken down into amino acids unless they’re packaged in a viable microorganism

so if those enzymes are packaged in um some sort of organism from a fermented food or a cultured food they may survive into the small intestine and continue to assist with digestion at that point however if you look at the total amount of enzymes the volume of enzymes in plant Foods versus the enzymes that the human body produces there is a huge discrepancy

I mean we produce far more enzymes in the human body and that is really the largest chunk of digesting foods comes from what the human body um uh provides and so I think that in in terms of overall digestion it’s probably a fairly small contribution from enzymes and Foods

beyond that uh there may be other things that enzymes do and may have the potential to do that we have no idea about yet uh so to me just for the very reason of the conversion of phytochemicals into their active forms it makes a lot lot of sense to be consuming raw foods

um and the temperatures you know we know that even upwards of 120 130 there will still be some enzymes there but 118 seems to be a very safe number in my view so I think as a conclusion I mean I think it’s pretty clear that we’re both in a agreement that we recommend a lot of raw foods but neither of us think it necessary to eat a 100% raw food diet

Conclusion

that is no we don’t see that’s being beneficial to People’s Health or longevity to make to eat enough that you can’t eat anything cooked that’s just needlessly being needlessly restrictive for no reason that doesn’t mean we don’t that we wouldn’t either a certainly do not recommend a diet that’s predominantly cooked either the things that you cook should be conservatively cooked and we talked about that already with water cooking and not causing damage to the food and so on but some foods are bettered utilized orw cooked and there’s no reason to getting The Best of Both Worlds

I want to ask a question about um a disease that wasn’t on the list but it does say and more you know you it just says you’re going to talk about this this this this this and more so I my question is about something that’s in the category of and more okay I’d like to ask about I I not heard of that disease well you will I I want to ask about what you could recommend what’s the most important thing to do if somebody has epilepsy

Question

great question well you know the problem is it’s not one clear disease there’s lots of different types and there’s different you know all different results you see like I’ve you know my years in practice I’ve had people who were young people and children and and um teenagers that have had have seizure disorders and epilepsy and and treated them nutritionally and worked with them on doing all the right balance of nutrients in their body and trying to get them healthy and they grew out of it and they stopped

and what did what I help them with did the excellent nutrition help them grow out of it and stop having seizures I think it did but I don’t know that there are a lot of controll Trials on that um I know that though as a person has more brain damage in certain diseases there are some diseases of the brain that can be the brain can be significant damaged there can be um a seizure disorder that could be reversible

so I think in other words the broad spectrum of causes of epilepsy and probably it’s that some of the some causes may be reversible and other types of causes may be irreversible due to the limitations of the brain to rebuild itself once a certain cell destruction

um so with any disease I hate to say to people that there’s not an opportunity or chance for them to make improve and or get well because you never know what the body can do in some in cases but we can’t expect it to happen across the board to give predictable results maybe you want to say something

Well I this is definitely not my area of expertise but what I do want to share with you is just a little story of a a client that I um that I work with in Australia and his son uh two years old had just a awful time with epilepsy and several seizures a day it was really he was very very concerned

and um sometimes I think in certain cases uh sensitivity or serious allergy can contribute and in this case this child saw five um pediatric neurologists I believe and uh just medication medication medication was all they were doing

and eventually uh this family decided to and I it’s a little bit of a story but eliminate gluten and the seizures the epilepsy completely disappeared completely it was gone and not that it will work in every single case but for this child he had celiac disease and it was undiagnosed and so you know removing the gluten did the trip

so it’s just something to be aware of as a possibility for some individuals but other than that I don’t know that much about it and there’s always unusual sour cases and I’ve had a person who who seized whenever they ate yogurt They seized you know so but but the more you take those irritating Foods out of a diet that are IMO stimulation or you know or the more toxic the diet is the more likely you’re going to hit something that’s going to stimulate the brain negatively and hopefully you’ll catch you’ll help a person before their disease is too advanced and or has a significant um component of brain damage to it okay thank you

may I make a comment um in 1973 it’s really related to the woman who was confused and perplexed about her blood test uh in 1973 um the blood testing was changed and when people used to wake up to find out if they were iodine deficient they would simply do the gold standard uh basil body temperature test

but because you couldn’t make any money off of that um you know because you have to get dressed raise the metabolism and go to the doctor’s office you know they had to figure out another way to control the patient so what they came up with was blood tests they don’t even measure the iodine in the blood or the urine and they have uh grossly low micrograms per liter for even measurements

um which Dr Gabriel cousins is definitely a pioneer in the fact that 95 to 98% of the people on the planet are iodine deficient well when they look at the blood and they see T4 in the blood they’re like oh you’re fine in 1900 if you’re overweight they gave you 100 milligrams of iodine a day for being overweight and our RDA is insultingly 150 micrograms

well when you look at the blood and you say oh your your T4 is fine based in no the adrenals made it the adrenals make backup hormone this is the biggest mystery in medicine I feel on the planet thank

Skepticism

you what well I could say is there’s lots of theories out there and they’re just theories and they have to and we have to be somewhat skeptical of of um we have to have a degree of skepticism because there’s a lot of all claims being made in the alternative medicine field and most of them are unsupported and you know but some of them may true to be helpful and some of them can be helpful for individ idual people

so and I think the use of those kind of techniques should be limited to those that are getting or can’t get help any other way and well you know we have the basics and I think you’ve learned the basics this week of what you need to take care of your health and you have to always keep in mind that too little of certain nutrients can be harmful and too much of any nutrients can be harmful too

and too much water can be poisonous and if you breathe too much and taking too much oxygen that could be poisonous too and too much iodine is definitely a poison and can have harmful effects and we have to take that with a grain of salt because people can be hurt by excessive amounts of iodine as well so that’s that’s a comment or a question but I just can’t let it go unchallenged

I won’t say anything I I I I mean I agree I think that we know that uh we have an upper limit for iodine for a reason um and there can be consequences and and very adverse effects of very high intakes as well

Osteoarthritis

um what are your thoughts about osteoporos or osteoarthritis as far as um reversing that I mean you see like you know cartilage rebuilt with these supplements and then um skin uh the stem cell therapy and then also you know what you can do for inflammation for the knees

I’m not quite sure the question but I think your question is saying can the loss of cartilage with osteoarthritis rebuild itself through some type of um nutritional treatments and things yes that’s correct and I think the answer is yes to a degree it can um reduce the inflammation and the cartilage is living tissue and it can rebuild itself to a degree except when the pathology gets so far Advanced when there’s no base of cartilage left or the base is so low that it loses its regenerative cells

so I think that’s Advanced disease like when there’s bone against bone it’s very difficult for the cartilage to rebuild itself so I think in the early stages of osteoarthritis when there’s um moderate minimal to moderate cartilage damage the body can repair itself to a degree but what more advanced it gets it gets very difficult the body cannot

so um and that’s something with similar diseases too I’ve seen a lot of patients with with um after heart attacks have a degree of low ejection fraction and having not full heart function but you know what after 10 years of eating right it seemed like a lot of the heart function came back their injection fraction increased and there was some hibernating myocardium in there that was not functioning that the body was able to regenerate again

so there’s always some degree of tissue that can be regenerated and some degree maybe that’s beyond help and cannot so you know so it has to be very individualized and then the stem cell therapy stem cell therapy have any

Stem Cell Therapy

thoughts on that if it works or I think that stem cell therapy and you can comment after me is um is one of the most powerful um New Horizons in medicine that’s going to have legitimacy and tremendous this application to help Humanity

so I do think that it’s some it’s one of the only areas that has the ability to regenerate tissue and take people who had some organ damage that can’t be regenerated nutritionally and still allow them to get better outcomes

so I do think stem cell therapy um in is its early infancy and there it its application is somewhat limited but I can almost be sure the next 10 years it’s going to be a a huge part of of um of Health Care very expensive and um it may not be affordable for everybody

but we know it’s um it’s most likely going to be very effective for people with serious illnesses that can’t to help them you know my view of it you have a person that you know Smoked Cigarettes ate junk food destroyed their heart now we can give them stemell therapy to build back their heart so they can eat more junk food

you know it’s it’s going to have it should have limited use to be able to you know make sure people live healthfully and don’t utilize this very expensive therapy that may help people might overuse it but it’s still it it in a there’s a lot of applications where it is useful I just agree and then just another the last

Physical Modalities

part of that like inflammation on the knees if they’re swollen just I guess proper diet and then icing anything else that you would recommend well yes all those things like are are helpful I also recommend certain physical modalities that can help people with circulation and penetration um such as you know type of neuromuscular ular um or or myofascial massages where they press they seek out the tissues that might be a little harder than other tissues and use pressure on them to to like push down and and allow blood to flow back into the area to stimulate healing so there’s a lot of physical modalities that can help people with that too okay thank

Turmeric

you and I’ll just add that you you know obviously we’ve been promoting a very anti-inflammatory diet and a lot of greens and and a lot of these anti-inflam inammatory berries and so forth and one of the things that people often consume to try to reduce inflammation is turmeric uh which contains curcumin which is a very potent anti-inflammatory compound

and just uh kind of a a little interesting bit about uh curcumin is it’s very very difficult to absorb okay so you don’t absorb much when you consume turmeric but if you put a little black pepper on the food that you’re putting the turmeric in you will actually increase the absorption by an estimated 1 to 2,000 times

okay so it’s really and I you know I it’s just something that’s so simple and uh just a a good way to boost your ability to absorb this wonderful anti-inflam inflammatory compound

talking about regeneration I’ve heard that once the gut lining is damaged by gluten for example is that something that can be healed once again I mean is there hope so I guess you all heard that it was that if the gut line is damaged can it regenerate itself and be healed again and we said of course it can

yeah so there’s certain parts of the body that tear harder to regenerate than others the gut is one of the parts of the body that can regenerate um one very better than most other parts of the body the parts of the body that have trouble regenerating are mostly Nur nerve tissue takes a long time to regenerate and brain tissue is hard to regenerate but the tissue your liver regenerates your you know the other parts of the body regenerate much easier and the lining of the gut as cells proliferate rapidly there and re and regrow themselves all right that’s great news one more thing

Cravings

um where’s the line between like cravings and what your body needs um I I should say that um that Cravings do not direct you to what your body needs that’s a complete myth the word craving automatically defines itself as being something perverted because a healthy person doesn’t have cravings and you don’t crave through what you’re deficient in that’s all you know

well you you crave things that you are I should say um addicted to and you crave things that are bad for you not crave things that are good for you and the the other thing is is that you know that we can’t you know interview people the idea that we can interview people and see what they like to eat and that determines what diet is right for them you know or do you feel better when you eat meat or do you feel better when you eat more vegetables I feel better when I eat meat so that must mean you’re a meat type and you need to eat more meat that’s nonsense

you know as a matter of fact because a Christian feels better when they smoke cigarettes doesn’t mean they’re a smoke cigarette type and that’s better for their health either you know what I mean because when you do things that make you feel good are not good for you things that are good for you you don’t do anything to you when you broccol you feel nothing the thing has to be toxic to make you feel better do you follow what I’m give you this things that stimulate you aren’t good for you and things that stop detoxification usually are somewhat toxic and and moderate detoxification through nutrition doesn’t give you any good feelings you know so so I’m I’m kind of saying that you can’t go by that okay thank

Brain Fart

you you know we’re talking about I’m 100% raw vegan two years now I was diagnosed with a head uh acoustic neuroma in my head we haven’t really T discussed chewing so I was going to go over you guys I did discuss chewing today you did yeah did you hear my lecture today I must had a brain fart I was here yes must have been the acoustic Noma all right I I hear out of one but also fermented foods I’m Raw sauerkraut kefir I think you discussed that too I was going to get her thoughts on that sure

well I think if you again look around the world and look at the studies that have been done on people consuming living food diets and their gut microbiome uh they’re definitely is some link to the consumption of fermented foods and a better gut microbiome and so I I think it’s a lovely addition to the diet

um so I I mean I I do try to include myself some sort of cultured or fermented foods and what I often do and I haven’t gotten into fermenting vegetables myself yet yet although I do purchase some raw fermented vegetables but I do make all of my own uh fermented cheeses and uh and things like that with nuts and seeds and really enjoy them

I think it’s a a wonderful addition to the diet and I know that you said today you don’t feel it’s necessary if you have a good diet you should you know with plenty of fiber and prebiotics and prebiotics are those components of the diet that help to feed the friendly bacteria and that’s of tremendous benefit as well

there are a lot of prebiotics in certain types of vegetables like Jerusalem artichokes and legumes and things like that so doing a combination where you’re consuming some prebiotics and some probiotics is I think a reasonable thing to do

yeah I think it could be helpful for a person who has digestive problems and who have some history of not eating healthy and they’re not but I I personally don’t think that they’re NE they a necessity for good health and I don’t think that you need to eat fermented foods to have excellent health and I don’t really generally recommend that and or you know unless a person’s taking antibiotics or on or have some digestive disturbance or inflammatory bowel disease or irrit bowel disease

I do recommend um things like probiotics and fermented foods if a person has some particular medical condition that might NE necessitate extra of that stuff but for a healthy people with healthy digestion you make your own um you know and I don’t think there’s there’s a need for that thank you

also my sister has a 2-year-old that’s just two she’s constantly constipated she just can’t go I don’t you know she drinks she’s a baby so it’s out of control what she’s drinking or eating so any thoughts on health helping her with that area how old is the how old is the child she turned two yesterday oh so she’s eating food somewhat she hardly eats but yes

picky eater

she’s breastfeeding but hardly eats she’s most of her calories come from the breast milk uh a lot she’s starting to transition into some foods whatever she’ll eat she’s picky well it’s the same thing with when you when you Shipwrecked a child on a desert island they eat what’s available and they don’t starve to death

and I think it’s very important that that if the if the child’s a picky eater the parents have the tendency to feed the child whatever they’ll eat and it ruins the nutritional quality of their diet because they’re so worried the child’s not going to eat enough food and the fear that the child’s not going to eat enough food makes the child be in control of what they’re eating

now they’re no longer eating healthy food which lets to be a vicious cycle with constipation and other problems and let instead of making it a environment of he of healthy food choices for the child you know what are what are your thoughts about giving her meat cuz I’ve been trying to say no but just I I know a plant-based but

meat

well we want to give her fibers that are going to help her bowel produce the right bacteria right and produce um a high bowel Transit time a meat-based diet or or meat wouldn’t be something that would want to give her predominantly a diet focused on that because that’s going to exacerbate the problem

and a couple things I’d like to add number one is if most of her calories are coming from breast milk I’m really concerned about where her iron is coming from and if she’s potentially in iic and if that may be affecting her appetite and so that’s something to think about she needs a source of iron and exogenous source of iron she needed it a long time ago so that’s just something to think about

and secondly uh is a at 2 years of age um she you know she should be eating a really good mix of solid foods and sometimes when parents miss this sort of critical time for uh introducing various textures and so forth and allowing children the tactile you know being able to sort of play with food and and consume it it can be really hard for them to accept textures and so it can be challenging

but they they need to be introducing her to just about everything and lots of high fiber foods meat would provide the iron if she’s low in iron but there are other wonderful sources of iron that are much more healthful and would actually provide the fiber and she needs enough fluids as well but you know children

I I just so agree with what Dr Ferman said about you know if children are on a desert island I remember when my kids were little U my kids are 30 and 27 now but when when they were little um they they were raised on healthy foods and and we didn’t introduce some of the not so healthy things

and I can remember my daughter at 9 years of age coming upstairs uh getting ready for bed and she said mom what could I have for a bedtime snack and she looked in the fridge and she saw what was in the fridge and she said boy there’s a had a spinach can I can I can I have the spinach and I said well sure

so she got out and she cooked the spinach with garlic and and took out a wedge of lemon and sat down at the table and she’s squeezing the lemon on the spinach as my six-year-old son is walking up the stairs and he looks at her and he goes is that spinach and she says yes it’s spinach and he said well is there any more and she said well no I just ate the last batch and he just burst into tears

and you know the point is is what you introduce your kids to what you get them excited about uh if you’re growing gardens they love vegetables they love fruits and as parents that attitude we have bear some responsibility for that

and um I can remember the first potluck my 2-year-old son went to it was at a toy lending library and there was all these platters of foods and he thought he got to pick a platter and bring it back and there were bowls of chips and sandwiches and all kinds of stuff and he went made a beeline for the for the vegetable tray and carried it back to our table the whole thing

I had to explain to him that he didn’t get the the whole thing but anyway and I I just you know we we really need to say we have to set boundaries as parents and uh and that’s all there is to it and yet um I guess from a vegetarian perspective I I I took the easy way out in one sense

I told my children at home we eat plant Foods we’re vegetarian uh when you go to friends homes or when you go you’re with other people you’ll have some choices to make in your life and the choice of whether or not you eat meat or dairy or whatever it is is completely up to you uh it’s not up to me when you’re out with with friends you have to make that choice

and uh and I think that’s also a very reasonable thing to do do uh we can set boundaries with in our homes and to me we have responsibility as parents to offer the food the child has the responsibility of you know how much food they’re going to eat and so forth but if all we offers healthy foods it’s all good thank you see I used to I used to

kale

fight a lot with my children about this I’d say to them Sean you better not eat all that kale because I need it for my strength and my power and my job and if you eat it all you’re going to get stronger than me and I can’t have you get be stronger than me so he’d come over and give me a shove and I’d like back flip over the couch and I’d say get those green vegetables away from that kid I can’t have him getting that strong

he’d wake up in the morning and go where’s the broccoli Dad it’s not for you you know so that’s my fight with my kid but I know with many years of contemplation and study and with thought I finally figured out you know cuz I used to enjoy watching Gilligan’s Island and I finally figured out lots of contemplation that Skipper never really lived on that island

fruit eaters

true I keep reading that we’re frugivores is that fruits and are we herbivores or omnivores or I keep seeing on the internet where frugivores which to me means fruit eaters so I tended to go a lot more fruits as my diet progressed being raw vegan I was a lot of vegetables salads and then I ended up more fruits

well personally I think that’s one of the problems with a raw food diet is that people are raw eat too much fruit and that it’s hard to eat enough vegetables when they eat everything raw and they’re D and and I see a lot of over the years I’ve seen people with who who were um raw foodists and and ate so much fruit lose their hair lose their nails more prone to fungal infections more prone to infections pneumonia and just have poor immune system function and not do very well

some people can thrive on it we’re all a little bit different but I think there the chances of the probability is that a person with a heavy fruit diet has is increasing the probability of not thriving as well had they had a more varied diet and and less fruit and I even like a lot of fruit I just don’t want a person to eat mostly fruit to be mostly if eat so much fruit in their diet

I remember one guy you know I’ve been involved with a natural hygiene or American Health Association you know many years ago as a teenager and um so some of these people are so into their uh into nutrition that they and so against medical care that they would get a pneumonia and not and not want to take an antibiotic or be so afraid of any kind of medical care and I’ve seen people refuse Medical Care and die

you know and you know I had a person who was a mostly a raw food fruit fruitarian develop pneumonia I saw a lot of people who are fruitarians get too thin facial atrophy you know teeth teeth dental problems um fungal and skin infections toenail infections and get pneumonia and then refuse antibiotics and die you know

so I’m just I’m not saying that you know people people can’t thrive on it but I be cautious and try to have a eat more veget you have a well more well well-rounded diet not living almost 90% on fruit it would it be like 80% on vegetables 10 20% fruit or

fruit vs vegetables

90% fruit vs vegetable 10% frood you know I’m not that rigid there’s a lot of various percentages that are probably good for a lot of different people and I don’t think it has to be that rigid I’m just saying that the I would probably say is as long as the majority of calories in your diet I wouldn’t recommend the majority of calories in your diet come from fruit but I think probably for a lot of people half might be okay if they ate all the other things enough of but a lot of these people are eating a diet where they’re way above half of their calories come from fruit I think that’s the problem

I do tomatoes uh cucumber and consider them fruits just because they have seeds so they don’t seem like they’re that sweet to me but not is that considered a vegetable what’s that I mean we eat them as vegetables and they’re much lower in sugar thought they were fruit so yeah they’re technically fruit botanically but they they are much lower in sugar for sure

I have a lot of low sugar fruits we don’t care about the name of what you call it we just don’t want you to have an over overbalance of sugar in your diet I go back and forth thank you and and I’ll add that what I’ve seen sometimes when people are eating a a very high fruit diet is um they tend to have a little tougher time getting enough protein and some of the trace minerals like iron and Inc which are really really important

so and sometimes they’ll get a little bit thin skinned and they will become amaric they won’t menstrate and and so there’ll be issues like that so just a little bit of caution there I personally eat a fair bit of fruit I’m I love fruit I’ve always my mom used to say when I was a kid if she would buy a baset of peaches they’d be gone in a day uh I’ve always been a fruit lover

but I do think it’s important as Dr Ferman said to have that that balance where you’re getting a a wide variety of foods so you get a wide variety of phytochemicals and I want to just uh go back I’m sorry I’ll just go back a little bit to what you know are we omnivores herbivores uh what are are as human beings we’re technically we’re omnivores we’ll eat whatever we can get to survive

um however that doesn’t mean it’s necess necessarily you know we Thrive best eating omnivorous I think we Thrive best on a very plant uh strong or plant-based diet uh and and if you look at uh nutritional anthropology what we see is is back in sort of the Paleolithic Era people uh in different parts of the world consumed somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 plants and 1/3 and 2/3 uh animal uh products

and and what what uh what’s really interesting is if you look at the estimates of nutrition or vitamin and mineral and protein and so forth intake uh what’s really interesting is at the very lowest end of plant intake so the people that ate 2/3 meat and 1/3 plants their estimated fiber intake was 70 G A Day

the people at the upper end of the pl intake 2/3 plants and 1/3 animals the estimated fiber intake was at least 150 gram a day now this has got to tell us something because the average vegan is getting about 40 to 60 grams or maybe 70 uh uh grams of fiber a day

so these people were eating a truckload of plants to get that much they were consuming on average 3,000 calories a day but if you look at their vitamin C intakes their pottassium intakes the nutrients that are really concentrated in Plants they were eating way more than even the average vegan so this is very very interesting

and the other thing we know is that cultivated plants have been bred to be sweeter to be lower in fiber to be more palatable than these wild plants that our ancestors were eating but people that are eating us SoCal Paleolithic diet today

I actually analyzed uh their menus I analyzed three days of menus from one of the top paleo websites and compared it to True Paleolithic intakes and I did the same with a vegan diet and compared that to True Paleolithic intakes the vegan diet was way closer than what people are calling paleo today

uh there nowhere close to what a Paleolithic diet really was what what are your thoughts about healing eczema and hypothyroid in a natural way without resorting to drugs eczema and the other one was hypothyroid so you can start with eczema

well the first question I think was eczema was like skin rash which is kind of like a combination of um of factors it might be have to effect with nutritional deficiencies it could be zinc fatty acid but essent but could also be allergies you’re sensitive to and we have to you know so with people’s diets we want to have a framework of a healthy diet but sometimes we have to do elimination diets and testing to see if there’s any sensitivity or allergies to food

and we talked about that yesterday on the panel I think it was we we mentioned that allergies and and and eczema and these diseases are more prevalent today than they used to be years ago and it’s our early in life exposure and our exposure to antibiotics and not breastfeeding and not eating natural foods and having an ultra clean environment and being exposed there’s a lot of causes

fault taking you know taking vitamin pills taking folic acid instead of eating green vegetables when we pregnant you know the whole thing about folic acid is kind of insane anyway it’s that a folic acid increases the child’s risk of allergies and infections it increases the risk of actually uh and I’m um claiming that this folic acid nonsense increases risk of Childhood Cancer you know

because here’s here’s my reasoning okay that folic acid is synthetic it’s not what we get in food food gives us folate folic acid has to be converted into folate but folic acid itself is more penetrat cells more readily and can drive cell proliferation it it’s definitely linked in multiple studies now to breast cancer and prostate cancer

and so we’re giving women during their pregnancy um a drug so to speak so they can so it can help not have neural tube defects instead of telling women they need to get Foley from eating green vegetables so now that we got a drug solution the folic acid for women they don’t have to be concerned about eating green vegetables they can just take the pill they can still go to McDonald’s when they when they’re going to have a baby and just take a pill thinking they’re okay

now it doesn’t work because for a lot of reasons number one the link between there’s other things in green vegetables besides folate that’s linked to healthy children and the lack of green vegetables in the diet before pregnancy and through pregnancy linked to high rates of childhood brain tumors and childhood cancers and things like that

so by putting the woman on folic acid you’re increasing the other problems and it doesn’t even work that well to prevent neural tube defects either because neural tube defects means you have to have adequate folate um before you got pregnant because the neural tube was formed in the first 20 to 20 35 days of pregnancy and mostly women don’t even know they’re pregnant time they know they’re pregnant start taking folic acid it’s too late anyway

so now they’re taking folic acid it’s too late to prevent neural tube defects they’re taking it too late but you’re it’s going to push child it’s going to push their risk of breast cancer up high because they’re taking folic acid and make them not pay attention to green vegetable consumption so there’s a lot of factor

well I I guess I I went in a different direction than you expected me to with the question but it just triggered off a whole a thought in my mind that we do so much wrong you know and it and our health is determined by not just by we but what our parents atat before we’re born

and you have living in when you are 2 years old you have all the eggs for your children and your body and what you eat all through your childhood affects the health of your children so your eggs that of your children are formed when you were in your mother’s womb when you were forming your nails and you were forming those eggs

so those eggs are a year older than you are and or almost a year eight months older than you are approximately your eggs of your children and you affect the health of your children by the diet you eat and you can affect their risk of allergies and the risk of autoimmune conditions and the risk of even there even the risk of diabetes can be affected by what you ate before you even conceive the child before you you know what I mean

so but but nevertheless when those problems happen we do all we can to optimize nutritional input make sure that we’re um no deficiencies are present and then sometimes see what type of dietary modifications sometimes with or without testing can be made to get this person to be as healthy as possible the the other one was hypothyroid

um so is iodine important in that the question about hypothyroid and iodine um there are some rare individ people there are some people who can benef who have hypoth hypothroidism who benefit from making more iodine some people but that’s very relatively rare most people with hypothyroidism do not benefit from more iodine because their diet it’s not caused by iodine deficiency it’s caused by an autoimmune disease attack on the thyroid gland

so you develop immune system that destroy the cells in the thyroid gland that make thyroid hormone and that attack is influenced by exposure to um things that are toxic in the in our natural in our environment it could be we don’t know all the toxins that make that sensitize the thyroid to the attack it could be plastic chemicals it could be petrochemicals it could be dioxins could be pcbs lying in cans and plastic goods and and women seem to be more sensitive to those toxins than men are

so um and mostly with the time you had it for years the time you’ve had developing it when you’re older it’s usually very difficult to reverse it so it’s not a disease we see that reverses um what’s the word consistently like diabetes reverses consistently heart disease reverses consistently liver diseases revers consistently but thy thyroid disease does not reverse consistently

I have seen some cases that had autoimmune hashimotos or thyroiditis that were young that were able to reverse it themselves but I I don’t see a lot of people who who develop it later in life or who have it for years and years be able to get rid of it um did you want to comment on that go ahead okay

what is the best way to detect um whether you have parasites in the body there’s like so many tests out there which one would you recommend for Paras for detecting parasites that when you lie down and you spin crystals over your well the the best test are the are that do the best type of stool analysis where they do a very comprehensive um stool analysis including micros microsopy

so it’s having a careful not just to send it to a lab they do an MP but actually have the lab do a comprehensive analysis with careful micros microscopy and a person and and a lab that’s experienced in do and looking for those type of things but still that’s very much how should I say it um ex those the um it’s exaggerated the the amount of people that have it are relatively rare

and some of the um those parasites like blasy hominus and those other parasites that you see in your stool are don’t affect healthy people when your health isn’t is good is good enough they are in inconsequential so I think that there’s a lot of overemphasis on that and it’s relatively rare that you have real parasites but it’s a legitimate problem in various parts of the world not so much much in this country

you know it can be a serious people and it can be a very serious condition if you come to another if you get something like that especially traveling in another country is it important to have enzymes with every meal like throughout your life cuz some people is it important to consume enzymes with every meal enzymes with every meal suppl supplemental enzymes yes no I don’t think it’s important to consume enzymes at all

why would you think your body can’t make it enough enzymes I mean if you’re eating a diet um with 90% of your calories from meat then you have overwhelmed the body’s capacity it to secrete digestive enzymes and you’re putting your body under stress so I could see all that fat and all that cheese and all that bacon and all that grease and may require some extra enzymes to help you when you’re going to get a lot of indigestion and reflux and constipation and hemorrhoids and diverticulosis and maybe enzymes help those people

but I can’t see living within the capacity of the human body and eating and and and digesting and chewing and that you why would you need any digestive enzymes at all but as we grow older doesn’t our enzymes aren’t we depleted of enzymes don’t we need to take over a certain age like maybe 50 years or 60 years what are your thoughts on that that’s what that’s what is how old do you think I am um I have no idea oh I’m I’m 85 now

but anyway no I think that if you live a healthy life your age your body shouldn’t deteriorate like that there might be some rare instances and actually you could test for that if you thought that was the case but there might be and I’ve done plenty of tests on people and it’s it’s almost never the case that people develop true enzy enzyme deficiencies with aging so that’s not true

and and certainly um I consider people in the their 60s relatively young as far as their health is concerned maybe not on a standard American diet but um you should be able to be have all the capacity of of production in your body and don’t forget your body makes double the kidney function it needs maybe quadruple the kidney function it needs it makes it has four times the lung function need you can survive with a lung and still run still be physic and play games and stuff and be you don’t you your heart function is way over capacity for what we need

and our enzyme digestive capacity and enzyme capacity is way over what we need especially when we eat healthfully there’s no reason why you would need to think that your body can’t Supply what it needs on on the food we eat especially when we eat a healthy diet thank you I like your answer

and I’ll I’ll just add one thing because I think this is a theory that that was proposed by I think it was Edward Howell uh in a a book way back in the 1930s or something uh and I actually posed that very question to two of the leading enzyme researchers in the world uh and one from the UK and one from the US and uh both said there is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever to support that theory

and that humans uh you know there are some instances where people you know with certain diseases may not be bble to produce sufficient enzymes but in healthy individuals there’s no problem um you know for us to produce sufficient enzymes to digest the food we eat thank you

what do you think about enimas and colonics enas and colon that’s a good question enimas and colonics we haven’t talked about that yet okay we’d have another question but you know I I here’s I I guess I think that um there can be unusual circumstances where a person can be obstructed where they might need to have something to help remove that obstruction you know but I think that um generally speaking it’s an intervention that has risks and a person eating healthfully wouldn’t require that

and the idea that you have built up cakes of material on the wall of your colon that need special treatments like enemas and colonics to remove is simply not true there’s no such buildup of material on the walls of people’s colons and obviously you know that there’s a specialist in medical profession called a gastroenterologist with one of which the doctor was here today and yesterday who you know and and I myself as a family physician scope people and put look in people’s rectums and then and there’s no um in other words um there’s risks and it can and there’s no need to do that when you eat a healthy diet

the healthy foods and the raw foods are naturally keep yourself clean there’s no reason to do anything like that yes yes A friend of mine has lime do you have any recommendations for Lyme disease yes I think that um that there’s a lot of um how should I say this confusion about Lyme disease and that Lyme disease um if you truly have Lyme disease and the problem is there are Labs that diagnose people falsely with Lyme disease

and there are a lot of doctors who diagnose people with Lyme disease who don’t have Lyme disease and then they give them antibiotics for years and years or continually as a treatment for chronic lyme disease and the person becomes severely addicted to antibiotics because when they try to stop the antibiotics they feel ill and they think it’s the Lyme disease reactivating because they’re when they try to stop the antibiotics they’re actually just it’s just an addiction and the doctor turned them into an antibiotic addict

and they use these Labs that that um every almost every test you send them come back positive that improperly overdiagnose Lyme disease as the criteria to ascertain that and a lot of people so two things number one if you truly have Lyme disease then it should be treated with an antibiotic because if it’s because the Spy needs to be killed if it’s not killed it could cause blindness and and brain damage and it can really destroy a person’s health

if the Spyro is killed adequately with antibiotics then you still have dead Spyro in your body and you’re not necessarily all better but you have to get well slowly and you have with good nutrition and good health and you and even if you have symptoms then you don’t have to take antibiotics for the rest of your life or for long periods of time because then the person develops sickness due to the antibiotics and that they attribute to life disease

um and I and and I live in a lime endemic area and I had Lyme disease I’ve never taken an antibiotic in my life I can’t even remember except for I think last year when I thought I had a I thought I scraped my knee and it a a little scab on my knee and I thought it was didn’t even know it was a tick and then I developed um this big red thing on my knee and I thought it was um like a cellulitis infection and I realized no this is lime disease how did I get and I realized that scab on my knee was a tick that had a little scab over it and you couldn’t tell it was a tick

I’m always watching my body frantically for looking for ticks because I’m working in the garden I’m running in the woods I’m doing you know but um so in any case um I did have to take an antibiotic for Lyme disease but it never but you know when but I never had any problem with it after two weeks of doing that it was gone and I was you know wouldn’t but so in anyway lime disase should be treated appropriately and and I think you have to be very careful about the diagnosis of chronic lme with a person who had been treated adequately with an antibiotic because I think most most of those diagnoses are are dangerous for the person and harmful to the long-term Health to be on chronic use of antibiotics you could say so no that’s fine okay okay thank you thank [Applause] you

what can you do about fungus that you have like in a fingernail or toenail for years and I’ve been told you have to take some kind of medication which I’ve never done your question is about fungal infections and there are medications that you can take orally that are antifungal medications but like you said um there’s a kind of hency to do that because you’re treating your whole body with an antifungal and it could affect your liver and those are quite you know potentially risky drugs I wouldn’t do that and um so the answer so what else could you do

yes you can you can use topical medication on the that are that are antifungal um liquids on the nail and the toenail and let me finish this cuz this is a little more complicated um and you can even use household bleach which works as an antifungal a drop of household bleach on the nail but here’s the thing it doesn’t work unless you grind away the nail because there’s too much it can’t penetrate deep enough usually to kill all the fungus so it grows back

so what you do is you buy one of those drummel drills with a little Diamond bit and you and you carefully drill away at your nail it’s your toenail your thick toenail and it won’t hurt until until you get it down to like a paper thin and then when you get to that edge you can it’ll flake off and then when there’s almost no nail there then you can put the antifungal medication the liquid on it or a drop of bleach on it or some kind of or tea tree oil or something that has antifungal effects and then it’ll work

doing it a drop every day or twice a day for a period of two months then it’ll work and new nail will grow out because you removed most of the bad nail and most of the fungus before you use the treatment did you follow me two months though is that all two months of the drops yeah but but the well you it’s it’s good to use the drops where the nail grows back in and the toenail grows slower than obviously a fingernail does but you probably should use it till the nail is kind of almost you know mostly grown in looking normal again and then you can stop the drops because with the fungus you can just take the nail it just is easily

oh in your case it’s the fungus is so bad the nails coming right off practically there must be a fungus Among Us yeah I think so but you can almost take it a lot of it off if you take the whole thing off I have not the whole thing but I mean you can take most of it off I’ve got app pliers up in my room I’ve taken it off and it grows you know it does grow back but you got to well then you got to put you the point is you got to put the tetri all the bleach or the treatment at on the cuticle on the base of the nail where the thing was pulled out and cover the whole nail bed but put it in the base and let it sit there for a minute and keep treating that every single day okay

I’ve tried the bleach and that but I probably haven’t done it long enough I start by doing the topical stuff but I don’t Contin I don’t do rigorous and keep doing it for a long time yes okay so Dr Ferman any final closing thoughts you want to leave us with

I’m just that it was a pleasure being here and speaking to all of you this week and I really enjoyed meeting some of you individually and I hope that you benefited from this was I think a wonderful week and I hope you benefit from me being here and hope to keep in touch and hear from you in the future and hopefully you all have um a happy and healthy life moving forward and be really take care of your health thank you for